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Okay, I know you all want to see the stuff with Vash in, but since Sumire only translated some of the chapters and it actually makes a hell of a lot more sense if you follow things in order, I'm going to start from the beginning. So today you get chapter one.

As I've been translating this, I've figured out at least part of the reason why TriMax 10 took so damn long to come out. It's been edited since its appearance in YKO. There are a couple of things in Sumire's translations that aren't in my tankubon, and rather more things in my version that aren't in hers. Plus, there are a couple of pages so far where the description of what's happening fits, but the words are different. Not 'our translations differ' different, but 'bear absolutely no relation' different. And some of the chapter breaks are in very different places. Since Sumire has gaps in her chapter translations, I don't know how much of that is because new stuff has been added and how much is just shuffling around the subdivisions. My chapter 3, for instance, carries on for 15 pages beyond where Sumire's stops. The only other volume that I've been able to compare Sumire's YKO stuff with the compiled manga was TriMax 8, and I saw no changes there at all.

Interesting, methinks....

Most of you here already know where this plot is going. If you don't know, and you don't want to know, it would be a really good idea NOT to click on the link. The anvils start dropping early on.


So, at the end of TriMax 9, Wolfwood was losing the fight for the orphanage and crawling about in the dirt. Two on one is harsh odds, especially when the two are your old mentor (Chapel) and the guy who trained alongside you (Livio), and they both know exactly how you fight. There were a dozen or so faceless minions too, but Wolfwood got them out of the way easily enough. Livio has at least 3 different names - Sumire's translations refer to him as Trip of Death to start with, and then switch to Livio later on. I'm going to call him Livio from the start, beause it's just easier and because Trip of Death is a godawful name anyway.

Chapter One goes by the title of 'Moushuu' - Deep-Rooted Delusion according to my dictionary.

Picking right up where the last book left off, Wolfwood is feeling like shit. He's hacking up blood, his vision's whiting out around the edges, his ears are ringing and numb, and he honestly doesn't think he can do a whole lot more.


Chapel's busy gloating, and Wolfwood is thinking back to TriMax 2 when Vash called him a coward and told him he always gives up too easily.


Chapel continues the victory rant, telling him he can't defend a damn thing the way he is now, and asking him about the plot to kill Knives, that kind of stuff. Wolfwood pulls himself together enough to snark back, and they bitch at one another for a few pages, with Wolfwood insisting that he still has faith in good.


His snarking eventually gets him the literally pointy end of Chapel's cross-gun in the face, and Chapel declaring he's going to have his revenge.


Livio intervenes, though, to stop Chapel killing Wolfwood on the spot. He wants to play with him a bit more first. Livio looks and sounds completely batshit insane at this point. He kicks Wolfwood in the teeth and sends him sprawling. Livio is then seriously surprised to see that Wolfwood still has three doses of Miracle Drug(TM) left.


Chapel shoots Wolfwood again, and explains to Livio that if Wolfwood takes a third dose of the Magic Juice, it'll probably kill him. This is clearly news to Livio, who hadn't realised that Wolfwood didn't get the full set of upgrades.


Chapel gloats some more at Wolfwood, and then spears him with that very pointy cross-gun.


Chapel takes the rather gory and gratuitous Wolfwood torture to the end of the chapter, still ranting on about his revenge and how he's going to show him hell. Such a nice man....

I'll do some chapter two scans tomorrow, and you can all share in some of the Vash-love XD
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Date: 2005-01-30 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
Hey, most of volume 9 was Wolfwood getting his ass kicked! Well, okay, he looked pretty damn cool at first, and he was doing okay until about half way through, but after that he was just getting ground down....
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Date: 2005-01-30 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
That does seem a particularly vicious thing to do, I'll grant you. I mean, shooting the man is one thing, but that takes the enjoyment in being a bastard to a whole new level.

But you only have to wait until tomorrow, dear!

Date: 2005-01-30 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] techno4tomcats.livejournal.com
Wolfwood! Torture. I'm cringing and squeeing at the same time! >.>

Date: 2005-01-30 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
Nightow really is harsh to these two. After it was Vash for a long time getting the bulk of the angst and torture, it suddenly became all about the Wolfwood nastiness. Poor guys!

Date: 2005-01-30 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthhellokitty.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm thinking "gratuitous" is the word here - not that there's anything wrong with that, really. Hurt, hurt, hurt: can I hope for comfort to follow?

Date: 2005-01-30 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
Never in this canon! All Nightow does to these poor guys is make them miserable. Which of course is why I write fic and give them the good part to make up for it somewhat XD.
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Date: 2005-01-30 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
Well, these poor bastards deserve somebody to do something nice for them, they really do. Hey, practically nobody deserves the unrelenting misery Nightow heaps on them.

Except maybe Chapel. And Knives.
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Date: 2005-01-30 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
You know, I'd like Trigun so much less if it was a morality tale!

rookies

Date: 2005-02-02 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kendokat.livejournal.com
Laughs . . . yes, I'm basically one of those clueless about alot of what is going on but also fascinated. This is so very very different than the anime and the motivations of the charas are so different.

What is the Miracle Drug? That's new for me. Is that why Wolfwood is being tortured to a fraction of his life and will survive because of the Miracle Drug?

Well I appreciate your efforts and the translations . . . very cool!

Re: rookies

Date: 2005-02-03 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
Yeah, by this stage in the manga the anime has been left way behind. The last connection with the anime was back in TriMax 3.

Basically, Chapel, Livio and Wolfwood were all part of a group of assassins working for Knives called the Eye of Michael. The EoM have developed all kinds of freaky medical stuff (presumably with technology Knives supplied) - Wolfwood is canonically far stronger and faster than human normal, but whatever has been done to him wasn't entirely good for him, and he's aging fast. This man is not as old as he looks.... And yeah, the miracle drug is a healing thing. But like most EoM developments, it has nasty side effects, so Wolfwood wouldn't use it unless he was going to die without it.

We've only seen him use it once before - when he was badly shot up by Livio and Chapel rescuing Vash from Knives. 'Course, when he did that, he also revealed exactly whose side he was really on. Hence a very annoyed Knives, and the targeting of the orphanage. The orphanage in this canon is where Wolfwood and Livio grew up before the EoM took them away, and it's basically the only place he was ever happy and people were nice to him *sniff*

Hope that helps some! To be honest, one of the things I love about the manga is that Nightow doesn't always explain things right out - he gives you little scenes here and there in pieces and snatches of dialogue and lets you piece it all together slowly. It makes for a better read that way (for me anyway) and it leaves a lot of scope for playing around in the gaps with fic!

Re: back again!

Date: 2005-02-09 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kendokat.livejournal.com
Okay back again!! Real life has been crazy . . . heh . . . doesn't everyone sing that tune? Anyway, I have been wanting for the past week to get back over here and see more of what's going on with this story. And your pages are always such a slow load for me on my poor pitiful dial up . . . laughs . . . cues up the mini violins . . . anyway . . . I am going to take a day or two to play catchup . . . you are forewarned. ^__^

To be honest, one of the things I love about the manga is that Nightow doesn't always explain things right out - he gives you little scenes here and there in pieces and snatches of dialogue and lets you piece it all together slowly.

Hmmmm . . . that does sound very intriguing and I agree that slowly building the story with little scenes and events, does make for a more interesting read . . . letting one slowly piece it together.

Re: back again!

Date: 2005-02-09 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
And your pages are always such a slow load for me on my poor pitiful dial up

Yeah - it's not always easy decision-making. I could have scanned the pages smaller and lower quality, I could have scanned fewer of them (especially in some of the later posts) to make it faster for dial-up people. But people with good connections want to see more of the guys, as I would, and to be honest I think most of my flist have decent access these days, so the need to pimp and pimp well won out!

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