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I have right here in my trembling little paws, Trigun Maximum volumes 10 and 11, all shiny and wonderful and sad.













This may be the last you see of me for a while....

EDIT: The longer comments at the end of this post now include big spoilers for these volumes, so don't read those if you don't want to know stuff like that. Stop when you hit April!

Date: 2005-01-26 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistressrenet.livejournal.com
Ho-lee shit.

Date: 2005-01-26 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
You think Shadsie wants to tell us again how much Nightow hates the yaoi and would never dream of encouraging it?

Date: 2005-01-26 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistressrenet.livejournal.com
::snicker::

God. They're just...God.

Date: 2005-01-26 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arafel.livejournal.com
Seriously. Despite my preference for a ship, I don't doubt that Nightow knows where his bread is buttered.

Date: 2005-01-26 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
He really didn't have to throw us such obvious bones, though. We were managing to slash these two perfectly well before he opted to play up to it - he just wins my eternal admiration and devotion for doing it! :-)

Date: 2005-01-27 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arafel.livejournal.com
But then, just to fuck with everyone's head, Nightow has Vash and Meryl share an indirect kiss. (No, I don't think it means anything besides "you're nice to me and I like you," but it's hella cute.) Well, poor Wolfy wasn't available, I guess. :(

Do share summaries, if you're so inclined! Damn, now I want to schlep up to Kinokuniya.

Date: 2005-01-27 06:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistressrenet.livejournal.com
That kiss was hella cute.

Date: 2005-01-27 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
That kiss was so cute and so very Vash. Both of them needed that.

I phoned my local Kinokuniya first and they didn't have them in yet. Ended up ordering them online from Sasuga.

Date: 2005-01-27 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistressrenet.livejournal.com
He's smart enough to make us all happy, and I appreciate that.

Date: 2005-01-27 06:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arafel.livejournal.com
Nightow gets a special place in my heart if for no other reason than he put his cat in the manga 'cos he likes his cat. :D

Date: 2005-01-27 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistressrenet.livejournal.com
I think we all like Nightow's cat. Nyah!

Date: 2005-01-26 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arafel.livejournal.com
Nooo! Where are you going? Don't leave! O_O

Oh, and shiny scans! Thanks for posting!

Date: 2005-01-26 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
I have much translating to do! XD

*iz incoherant from subtext*

Date: 2005-01-26 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andmydog.livejournal.com
o_O






Hand... back... line of fire, and... and ... ooh.

Go, go translate, read, stare, why are you still here?

(Cover of 10. Hoo-ah.)

Re: *iz incoherant from subtext*

Date: 2005-01-26 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
It's the hands! It's the hands! He could have drawn that same exact sequence so it just looked friendly, but it's the close-up of just how tight Vash is holding Wolfwood, and the double panel of his hand pulling away so the letting go looks really slow and reluctant. And then they just stand and look at one another for an instant. In the middle of a firefight. *thud*

Date: 2005-01-26 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uiggu.livejournal.com
Oh my FUCKING GOD. The grabbiness. The GAY. Nightow-sensei ga daisuki oh YEAH~!! <3 <3

::clings to you:: Don't go! Don't take the lovely wonderful gay books with you!

Date: 2005-01-26 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
I know! I know! I love Nightow beyond words. I mean, he didn't have to pollute his shounen action manga by catering to the likes of all those perverted women who twisted it to their tastes. He could have kept on writing it just like it was and we would still have slashed it. But especially from Maximum 8 on, he chose to give us these wonderful little V/W moments that just ooze shounen-ai and make me utterly happy.

That whole chapter of this book, in fact, is just wonderful. I may have to scan a littel more when I've translated it.

Date: 2005-01-26 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andmydog.livejournal.com
And what's this "may", hmmm?


Dammit! Why'd I have to pick now to be poor?

Date: 2005-01-26 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yma2.livejournal.com
Nightow you Effing TEASE!
Serously though, that was great, I wish you weren't going though :sob: I shall cwy now. Cwy and cwy and CWY!
).:

NB, what do ya think of my new Avatar?

Date: 2005-01-26 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
Nightow you Effing TEASE!

I know! *love* He feeds me, he feeds me!

I shall cwy now. Cwy and cwy and CWY!

Until you're sick? XD

The text in the icon's not the easiest to read, with it being over such contrasting parts of the image. It works, though.
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Date: 2005-01-26 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
And mine, damn. Where's Sumire when you need her? She didn't tell us about this! She didn't translate any of this chapter, which is all about Vash and Wolfwood being so very Vash and Wolfwood-like.

Come to that, she didn't translate the yaoi-rific bits of 8 either, or any of 9 with all it's Wolfwood backstory and slashy, slashy thoughts. It's almost like a conspiracy to keep us waiting and guessing!
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Date: 2005-01-27 09:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
I know she's incredibly busy, but if it were me I'd have translated some of the slashier chapters before some of the ones she chose! But then I'm a merciless pimp ;-)

Date: 2005-01-28 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uiggu.livejournal.com
I know her a bit -- she's on my flist and I've chatted with her a couple of times. I get the impression that she's busy rather than lazy. And she digs the yaoi, so it's not censorship or anything like that!

Date: 2005-01-26 06:21 pm (UTC)
jambery: (aya)
From: [personal profile] jambery
Yow.

Date: 2005-01-26 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
Yow and ouch both. Nightow is so mean to these guys. He treats them very badly. Is it very wrong of me to give them hot sex as some compensation for all the canonical nastiness? Especially when Nightow throws out the trail of breadcrumbs XD

Date: 2005-01-26 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hibem.livejournal.com
:stares:

...

i think i might weep with incoherent fangirl joy.

Date: 2005-01-26 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
I was scriking on and off through the afternoon with the combination of the sweetness and the horribleness of it all. I figured some of you may as well join me!

Date: 2005-01-27 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonriddler-mim.livejournal.com
the color cover with Wolfwood! *gaah*

Date: 2005-01-27 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
Oh, yeah! *purr*
Volume 10 is all about Wolfwood doing what Wolfwood does best. And Vash will be anywhere Wolfwood is at this point. His sticking around while Wolfwood does the mass killing bit is probably the best indication you could ever get of how important Wolfwood is to him. *loves Vash*

Date: 2005-01-27 09:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glass-bullet.livejournal.com
OMG. I love you forever and ever and ever. *dances* And damn I love Nightow (as if people haven't said it enough @.@) WOOHOO! Vash x Wolfie is canon O_O

Date: 2005-01-27 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
*sigh* All these people so keen to shower me with approval when really I'm just an evil pimp XD

Date: 2005-01-27 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imre-nico.livejournal.com
Brrrrrrrrr...That was just...Nightow is a gem, he really is. I love the reluctant release.

I think he's trying to make it up to us for killing off...I mean the least he could do was give him some sugar before he dispatches him to the void.

Date: 2005-01-27 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
Yeah. Those two panels of Vash's hand sliding away from Wolfwood's waist really make this sequence slashy as hell. Shadsie can spout all she likes, but I'd be impressed if anyone could give me a convincing reason for those panels to be there other than to feed the yaoi vibes.

Date: 2005-01-28 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] knives-gurl.livejournal.com
Hey I dont get it? Whats the big deal? Did they touch or something!! @____@ fuck me for being a navie , can you explain! @_@

Date: 2005-01-28 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] knives-gurl.livejournal.com
Nevermind I got it.XDD Well that is indeed interesting... what is Mr. Nightow trying to do here? Such a devil for teasing.

Date: 2005-01-28 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
Nightow? Oh, he's making money *g*. I have no idea what the percentage of his readership is that's there for the man-groping, but it's probably not that small! Sound business tactics to keep the paying public happy by dropping a few hints XD
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Date: 2005-04-23 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
Don't apologise for being late. There's a reason I chose unlimited bandwidth photo-hosting and never take any of the scans down XD. I know how much it would frustrate me to find a shiny new LJ full of stuff I lusted after, and then find that most of the stuff had gone!

Nightow could very easily have drawn this sequence so it was just two guys who were friends protecting one another. That would not have included multiple close-ups of Vash's hands on Wolfwood's body and long, significant stares afterwards. Nightow himself could stand up in public and say he didn't mean anything by it, and I'd have to assume he was just saying it to calm the homophobes.

What these two guys will do for one another, the way they think about one another, there's no question that it's love. If it's platonic love, it's one of the most intensely obsessive and unusual forms of platonic love committed to paper.
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Date: 2005-04-24 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggymalvern.livejournal.com
Hey, I'm not buying platonic either. Not at all XD. I'm just thinking that it must look odd to those people who do insist on seeing it that way.

I love Nightow for the way he handled the Wolfwood thing. I am an unrepentant worshipper of understatement and subtlety, and that death scene in the anime really bugs the hell out of me. I knew Wolfwood was going to die in advance, and I was waiting for it, expecting it to really get to me, and then it didn't because it was so overblown. Wolfwood dying repenting at length in a church? Please! He may not have liked the way his life went, but I can't believe he would have done it differently a second time around, because every choice he made was the lesser evil facing him at the time. What could he have changed?

Translating and scanning Maximum 10 made me sob every day for about a week! Vash isn't ever going to find another Wolfwood, someone who knows it all and is strong enough to deal with it both physically and emotionally. If Wolfwood can't survive his association with Vash, who possibly could?

I can't wait for TriMax 10 to come out in English. It should finally kill dead once and for all that awful genre of stories where Wolfwood and Vash tearfully declare their undying love for one another. *This* is the reality of these two guys - Wolfwood starting to say something the slightest bit sentimental because he's dying, and Vash telling him to shut up. These two really don't need to say that stuff, because they both already know it, and neither of them wants to hear it.

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